Aperture2 vs. Lightroom2 – Aperture Forum Post

Thought some readers here would find my sarcastic but true response to a name redacted poster in the Aperture forum’s post regarding his switch to Lightroom. The really funny part was his response to this sadly Apple deleted it before I could grab it. Knew that would happen that is how you are able to enjoy this part. Original author in normal text – my caviler response in grey italic.

Name changed wrote:

well it was nice while it lasted, but Apple come on do you think nobody will try another software ?

I moved to Lightroom2, for the following reasons

1) Lightroom presets, finally i can select how i want a group of pictures to look like and replicate it later with 1 click

I use both applications both on almost a daily basis. If this is your number
one reason to switch I see you switching back and forth and to and fro
to just about anything that comes along. This functionality is
replicated using other Aperture features in a heartbeat. Good luck
saving a ton of time with this one.

2)Keyword synonyms, I have finally have a meaningful hierarchy and synonyms included without moving a finger

Keyword synonyms are nice I totally agree that this is really cool -
esp for multilingual photographers or publications. Bet you you will
see Keyword functionality beefed up in the next Aperture release it’s
been about the same since v1 (long before LR was even a glimmer in
Adobe’s eye)

3)working keywords. I can have my “work group”
keywords like what agencies i submitted my images too, what were the
sales etc. I can search and sort and create dynamic collections, but I
can choose those to be exportable or not exportable. Apple if you
position Aperture as “professional” software, give us tools that
professionals can use

Aperture can do the same thing with one caveat that there are several
scripts make work (namely putting the hierarchy in the exported version)

4)Non destructible editing. I can mask, edit,
correct, change exposure, sharpen, color, etc without creating a
rendered file. I do not get a concept of Aperture plugins, why do i
want to use or pay for plugins that render to a file? I want it in RAW,
otherwise i have photoshop

“Non Destructable” is this a new technology that I missed or didn’t quite
fathom. Anywho – the localized adjustments are nice and Aperture’s D+B
plugin is a joke but not a deal breaker for most folk especially with
tools like Viveza. and disk space is cheap anyway.

5)D@mn databases are getting corrupted all
the time. Apple get a note, use unique ID not visible to users, I don’t
care if 2 files have the same name, make it work

I have 300,000+ images in my main library – no issues. Maybe it’s you
or your hardware, or something. LR has a database – don’t count your
chickens so fast.

6)Better B&W processing and NR

Agreed way better DNG support and the new camera profiles and profile
tools that not many people even know are out there are a game changer -
Apple needs to think about this and hopefully do something similar or
better yet open up the RAW processing engine and let other people do it.

As for noise – get a D3 or D700 all noise reduction *****.

Overall I liked Aperture UI and features much better then Lightroom 1x,
but when Lightroom 2.0 came out i gave it a try. The type of
productivity increase i got is just incredible comparing to Aperture.
The biggest “no go” for me was lack of support for second monitor and
proper compare tools. With Lightroom 2 I have it all

Now minor but noticeable differences between Aperture and Lightroom

- Aperture database keeps getting corrupted (did i mention it before?)

- Aperture keeps crashing

- At about 50,000 images Aperture is barely usable with MacbookPro with 4GB ram

- You can not take your processing changes with you, Lightroom export those into XMl

There are much more things regarding support of new camera’s, support for bridge or CS, issues closed format

Overall I love Aperture look and feel and some functions, but if I need
to process, keyword and render 100 pictures in 10 minutes from Studio
shoot I choose lightroom

Bye bye

Have fun

Bye
We’ll miss you over here, can’t wait to see you in the LR forums. Have
fun don’t worry about us idiots over here we’ll get along I hope
without all of you wonderful contributions.

Ps. 100 shots? Save your self some time spent in learning a new app use bridge or finder.

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Eugene Nikiforov 02.11.10 / 9pm

You do not need to change a name it was me who published a post in the forums. Here is a full copy http://www.artq.com/2009/02/my-review-of-apple-aperture2-vs-adobe.html

Here is a new review http://www.artq.com/2010/02/my-review-of-apple-aperture3-vs-adobe.html

Bottom line. If geotags or custom fields are not exportable what is the point of using Apple Aperture 3 ? It’s about flexibility and ability to take changes from one place to another, otherwise there is no point to even spend time.

Granted if they would fix that, as well as performance Apple Aperture 3 would be a killer app

Daniel 02.18.10 / 5am

Eugene, let me quote from that so-called review of yours:

“- import is slow and constantly gives message “not enough disk space” while there is plenty of the disk space”

I didn’t experience this at all, neither on my aging 2007 MacBook Pro, nor on my early 2008 Mac Pro. In fact, the program is really fast and an improvement over Aperture 2 performance-wise.

“- you can not export original (DNG or any RAW file) with the data that you applied in Aperture. what is the point of Geotagging or creating custom attributes if you can not export them.”

The original file should never, ever be modified in any way, shape, or form. That’s the whole point: your original remains untouched. So why is it still useful to add information? Simply to work with it while inside Aperture. Are you saying that keywords are useless because they can’t be written into the original RAW or DNG file?

“- performance problems, 200$ software should not require a 4K computer, even MacBookPro have problems running it.”

Again, I don’t see this performance problem. Besides, your logic is bizarre: it’s as if you were saying that if Apple charged more for Aperture, it would be OK for the program to run slowly on some computers. Hhmmm…

“There is a bunch of other problems, you can read on Apple Support forum.”

Yes, some users are experiencing certain issues, especially with memory leaks that apparently occur in certain cases. Apple is clearly investigating this issue, and I’m sure a fix will be forthcoming soon. I find it odd that you don’t seem to be capable of separating an application’s functionality and fitness to purpose with something that clearly falls into the “bug” category.

This same inability to separate conceptual problems from purely anecdotal evidence comes through in most of your comments. For instance, because import is slow on your machine, it has to be so for everyone. Well, it isn’t.

Look, if LR does what you want, great, but just because you are missing what *you* consider to be must-have features is hardly a reason for others not to use Aperture.

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Another sad dose of real life has hit the family of a reality TV star.

The 4-year-old daughter of Ax Men slinger Jesse Browning has been mauled to death by the family’s Rottweiler.

Ashlynn Anderson’s body was discovered by her mother outside on the lawn Sunday, according to officials in Astoria, Ore., where the family resides.

“Apparently, the dog just snapped,” says Clatsop County Sheriff Tom Bergin. “We have detectives working on investigating set the dog off]…We are going to give the family a day or two to grieve before we interview them.”

Browning called 911 and the girl was airlifted to a Portland hospital, but pronounced dead on arrival.

There was no immediate comment from the History Channel, which airs the popular lumberjack series.

Bergin says the attack came four months to the day after deputies removed a Rottweiler from the premises after it attacked an adult family member; that animal was euthanized. The Brownings’ two other Rottweilers have been quarantined at a shelter and are awaiting their fate.

“It’s from my understanding…only one of the dogs was involved in the attack but both dogs were seized by animal control services,” said Alan Oja, assistant chief of the Astoria Police Department, which received the initial dispatch.

“It’s a terrible tragedy.”

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